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My understanding is that Krishnamurti never left the Society. Someone once told me that after AB died K's bags were packed and left at the Gates of Adyar. In other words "go away".
He never "officially" left the T.S. and I understand from those w...
Is Uma Krishnamurti related to Jiddu Krishnamurti?
You didn't caught the point. Steiner regarded Leadbeater and other theosophist anti-christian, as the latter (with Bailey) regarded reappearance of Christ (world-teacher) as the cyclic phenomenon, not the fulcrum of human history.
Great point Toni and the cyclic phases of organizations certainly fits the T.S. as any. It is interesting to speculate what phase the T.S. is in right now I guess.
The Divine Wisdom as always been amongst us. We have probably heard that 1,000 tim...
Yes that is a very good point.
From my perspective this Christian influence was not just Steiner or Bailey but also manifested clearly in the works of Besant and Leadbeater at the time. The all took the original Theosophical impulse and passed it...
The only World Teacher is the one you find inside, no outer "world teacher" can take your cross ( karma ) but yourself, however these world teacher can show you the way...and most world teachers are closer than you may suspect, your Mother, Father...
Bailey in this respect is no different from Besant or Leadbeater. She with them supported a view about a world teacher (Christ or Maytreya) who incarnated in the disciple named Jesus. Yet they considered this phenomenon as cyclical and not as a fu...
Hello :)
While I was reading this subject I remembered a course I took in political science about the Life cycle of organized groups, which somehow apply to the History of T.S.
The course talked about a cycle composed of 4 periods:
- The establish...
Thank you, John, for giving us these overviews of theosophical history. I think it is very helpful to hold the history in mind when you wish to help the forward movement of the Society. It helps one to see the balances and imbalances, as we have b...
> He protested strongly but his views feel on deaf ears it seems. On reflection these days it can be seen that the T.S. then was turning itself into a religion and establishing its head in Krishnamurti and his disciples. Anyway for this reason and...
Hi Dan,
That is what makes this study so interesting. When you start to look at it like you have so many questions come up and it looks impossible. Your rational is a good one.
The seven planets of Hindu astrology are normally the ones that we u...
Hi Kerry,
Yes you do see a lot of intellectualism in the T.S. today. A lot of head learning with little heart to go with it. I would like to see this change and the T.S. embrace a service orientation as well as an academic one. However in the end...
Hi Mark,
During the 2nd T.S. cycle which was the Besant/Leadbeater period we saw several splits from the original T.S. which often resulted in new organizations forming but this was not so in all cases.
Anne Besant was a very powerful women of s...
>"This is where I believe most of the current problems lie, brought to the present day by a history of over intellectualised obsessions!"
>"We have yet to manifest the nucleus that is our first object."
I assume this is your discussion re: the 3 eras you refer to. I tend to disagree w/ your comments on Besant/Leadbeater. I think the break from the TS by K was a casting off of the psychic "dogmatic slumber" for the TS at that time. I also see the ...
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- I am a resident of New Zealand with an in interest in the present.
- Religious/Spiritual Path:
- Eastern teachings appeal to me but it is all universal in reality.
- Aspects of Theosophy I am most interested in:
- The Theosophy introduced by Blavatsky and Mahatmas Letters.
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- At 7:14pm on November 9, 2009,
Julie Royal said… - Hi John, I have not visited this sight in a while,
thank you for your message,,, please continue, the earth needs us now!
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- At 10:52pm on June 19, 2009,
Julie Royal said…
- Yes indeed,,, thank you for your message,,, the vastness to those who are awake is of constant inspiration!
I am a practitioner of Ayurveda also!
Nice to hear from you,
Blessings,
Julie
- At 11:28am on June 16, 2009,
Janeth said…
- Hello John☺, just wanted to say...Thank you for sharing your wonderful experience with us☺...
Reply by John Vorstermans on June 4, 2009 at 4:57am on forum “Approaching The Secret Doctrine
• Posted by Nathan on January 2, 2009 at 10:19pm in Theosophy. Thank you too for your valid suggestions!!☺
- At 10:29pm on May 29, 2009,
Janeth said…
- Yeeesss, me too, me too-☺...I share Maureen's sentiments >"I'll watch out for any postings you make."---Please, please do share with us your knowledge and wisdom, will you?!!☺
- At 5:22pm on May 28, 2009,
Maureen said… - Hi John,
Ohhhh, you can't imagine how delighted I am to see you on this TC.
I thought I'd cured my 'emotional excitements' with a bit of control from Buddhist teaching but here I am again..overly .excited to see you on this list.
Yesterday at Dear Dorothys funeral I fully intended to tell you something I've often wanted to tell you......
though you are probably unaware of it, I have been profoundly affected by so many things you have said over the years. I've always wanted to tell you what a very great influence you are in the life of this traveller. :)
I'm really interested to read your interests are The Theosophy as introduced by HPB and the Mahatma Letters. What do you know...I'm motivated to get back to the 'kernal of TS' myself...been reading Masters and Men by Virginia Hanson and devouring this TC site for more brilliant statements from HPB.
Methinks TS is way overdue to get back on it's intended course.
I'll watch out for any postings you make. Never a word wasted from you. I'm going to ask you to be my TC friend too. :) :) :)
- At 9:20am on May 27, 2009,
Janeth said…
- What a nice surprised you've given me, John-☺, thank you for your friend invitation!!☺
- At 7:12pm on May 26, 2009,
Janeth said…
- Yeaaahhh, another Aucklander joining our TC (Theosophical Community)!!☺ Welcome John!!☺ Very interesting and original what you posted on "Religious/Spiritual Path!!☺ There are other Aucklanders here as well; have you met some of them yet? Are you familiar with TS-NZ? Its National Center is located in Auckland. Other New Zealanders are Warwick, Pamela, Maureen, Murray, Maríe, Alina Alicia, among others. Enjoy the adventure here in our Community and have fun meeting other like-minded spiritual individuals world-wide. Please feel free to contact Dan Noga, TSA (Theosophical Society in America) Member Services Coordinator and creator of our TC, with any questions or challenges you may have in our Community. Nice to meet you!!☺
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