vaccine danger....

[adonis777]

many doctors and scientist have stated publicly that vaccines are dangerous...

and can cripple people`s health....

the current swine flu is an attempt by the powers that be to vaccinate millions of people around the world....

and with it destroy the health of these people....

your immune system is your best defense against any illness....

boost your immune system with vitamin c and d....

do not take the vaccine....

[Lenny]

Not that I'm worried about it, but I just thought I'd add what more I've heard of it. That Obama after achieving health reform will make the vaccine mandatory for all americans. Right now they are building FEMA camps all over the country so that if you do not take the vaccine you will be quarantined. You might think that the American People would not stand for this and would rise up to fight, and so does the Government apparently because currently they are training national guard to fight militia. They are training the military to fight its own citizens. I wonder what goes through the heads of those being trained to do this. But like I said, I'm not worried. I believe there'll be a surprise or two for us all when things start to get this crazy. Still, I do think it is important to communicate with others about politics from a higher perspective if you do have the knowledge. Just not in a fear mongering way. I used to have such a strong sense of urgency when communicating this stuff, like I had to let everyone in the world know now! It's funny to look back at it. But yeah don't take the vaccine lest you want to have brain diseases for the rest of your life if the swine flu doesn't kill you--because taking the vaccine just increases your odds of dying from it.

[Frank McLaughlin]

Common dude. With all due respect, you are posting nonsense. "Building FEMA camps all over the country...so you will be quarantined." "They are training the military to fight its own citizens." You are just making stuff up. Let's not do that.

[Mark Newbold]

What complete conspiratorial nonsense!

[Frank McLaughlin]

I avoided vaccinating my children until they were five as a precaution and many vaccinations are unnecessary; however, I am not aware of any scientists or doctors who "have stated publicly that vaccines are dangerous," and in the case of polio and small pox, vaccines are critical to eliminating these horrible diseases.

Telling someone going to India not to get their children vaccinated with polio shots seems to me, dangerous and harmful. You should provide sources with a claim such as this. What scientists? What doctors?

[Frater BC]

American Doctor, notice that the News Guy was caught off guard by the Doctors response for dangers of taking the Vaccine.


Canada
"I think it's an unfortunate precedent that we start basing our vaccine policy on that sort of preliminary research, but that seems to be what's happening and, of course, it's just confusing people that much further," Schabas said

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/701433

French Doctor here

Vitamin D Is Better Than ANY Vaccine, Increases The Immune System By 3-5 Times Two different Doctors....



There are many more videos...

[Maureen]

I have heard reputable Doctors and even Scientists exposing that vaccines are dangerous.
You may not have because it is hard for whistle blowers to be heard publicly on a wide enough scale to put an end to all this vaccination nonesense. At the very least, vaccinations destroy an individuals own ability to activate it's own 'inner medicine box' capable of maintaining good health.

Insisting someone has medications because they 'may' get sick, or are going to India or somewhere is an action based on fear....not fact. Where's the real proof vaccinations work?

I watched a tv programme last night from America. Just a regular weekly drama called SVU. Not a factual documentary or anything but the story line was about a baby who died from measles after being exposed to an unvaccinated child who was in the park during early stages of measles without realising it. The unvaccinated child got over measles no problem. The woman who did not vaccinate her child was arrested for 'mischievous death' of the badly mothered but vaccinated baby. (Slapped for crying about feeling unwell but it was the measles that killed her - not the neglect whilst unwell)

In my childhood most children had measles as a regular, normal, childhood complaint. No drama...bodies able to heal. Not ruined by vaccinations you see. Not so today...parents ruin their children's own 'inner medical chest' by replacing it with man made nonesenses.

The detective in the story said "the law was that people did not need compulsory vaccinations...unless in the event of a quarantine situation" If that was an accurate portrayal of american law, then I think it prudent for citizens in your country to consider whether or not compulsory medications you may be forced to have are safe or not. Whistleblowers about these things are often the very scientists who helped research the vaccinations.....until their conscience kicked in that is.

[Roger Earl Pirkle]

Frank all you have to do is google it. Lenny has not made this up it is out there. As to what it really means I dont know. Topics like this seem to scare people that surely our government would not or could not do such a thing. I thought that way right up to the day the Twin Towers came down. Most people want to be told what to think and will become violently opposed to you if you have an independent thought.

[Arthur E Gregory]

Well I've heard there are a small number of cases where people take the vaccine and could perish... depending on the vaccine of course and their health and so on..

And I do respect people who are worried about vaccinations and choose not to take them. We are free agents and can choose our own coarse.

But my son and I took the general vaccination for flu a week or so ago and we will more than likely take the swine flu vaccine when it becomes available next month...

This particular vaccine for swine flu could be important because there are signs of a world wide epidemic or what they call a pandemic somewhat simialr to the world wide epidemic after WWI.. I have spoken with two people who have lost loved ones already from the flu this summer... One was a pharmacist who lost his sister and a woman I'd known for years unexpectedly passed on from the flu about three weeks ago.. She was a fairly young woman in her late forties.


It also as I understand it a two stage vaccination...

So if I'm still around on this earthly plane after next month and we see how this vaccination is working maybe we can compare a few notes?

- Art

[Frater BC]

Yea, all the schools in Egypt have been closed because of a Swine flu scare, mostly due to Islamic law on pork. There are several western schools there attempting to hold internet classes so that they will not lose credit. I'm sure these vaccines could thin out their vast population a bit, and I would hold it past these Drug companies, murder is their lively hood. Mandatory means someone is becoming rich on this!

[Arthur E Gregory]

Well there could be a lot of what we call "paranoia" floating around these days and that can also do a lot of unnecessary harm.. Something maybe like yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre maybe..

but recall the parable of the Lord Buddha:

The Burning House represents the world burning with the fires of old age, sickness and death. The teachings of the Buddha are like the father getting the boys to leave their pleasures for a greater pleasure, Nirvana.

I'm fairly well confirmed that someday soon I'm a goin' to shuffle off from this mortal coil and wing my flight to the spiritual worlds ..

also I'm a thinkin' that there are a lot of worse ways to pass on than from a flu virus... and we need to make room for the younguns on this crowded planet.

[Maureen]

Comforting read for me who "reads alot and thinks even alot more"

There's always the 'red herrings' angle to factor into any of these concerns though and the popularmechanics information may be just that. Remain diligent in your search for truth about this matter.

An example as to how citizens can keep the politicians and bureacrats honest is this recent example from NZ.

The 'waffly representatives" of Govt in our country had been promoting the idea that parents who, even mildly, tap their children on the bottom for correction should be charged with an offence for which 'no defence' was valid. ie...parents could not 'parent' their children with a tap on the bottom as a correction for wilful behaviour etc. (disempower parents -tactic used by Hitler)
Known as the 'anti smacking law' in NZ it was clearly a law sensible citizens realised to be both stupid and harmful to everyone concerned. Naturally there was an enormous response with the majority of population totally opposed to such a law. Especially parents who did not 'smack their children' regularly but who had probably needed to in the early years even just once.

Police were not happy to know they had to arrest good parents for exercising their right to chastise children with a little slap on bottom etc. The outcry from citizens was so loud that politicians had to water down the proposed law so that 'arrest' was not the only outcome from a complaint of a child being smacked. Now, it is just an investigation, parents at the mercy of the policeman who investigates the complaint. The watered down version does not always result in arrested parents but it is still an unacceptable situation parents are now in.

Teachers now telling children to complain if parents ever smacked them. Nazi methods back !!!

Just as we had police here uncomfortable with this new law as originally proposed, so do you have Marshalls in america uncomfortable with what they are being asked to do in the event of an epidemic. Things they see as against your constitutional rights. Keep thinking and talking.

Take active control of your own destiny or let others do it for you.

[Arthur E Gregory]

Maureen,

I was interested in your comments about New Zealand and appreciate your advice to "Remain diligent in your search for truth about this matter"..

I strongly suspect that there is research showing a correlation of abuse of animals as a sign of disturbance that can lead to abuse of children and women althouigh I haven't personally done a search on that.

We in California have had Child Abuse Reporting laws for several years here. I think at least perhaps over the past fifty years or so.

I can only say that there are a few cases that have been extremely serious in nature and I feel in these situations the authorities have exercised their authority appropriately..

Unfortunately there are people who because of their upbringing and exposure to abuse themselves perhaps have abused their children and not by "tapping" their buttoms either.. for these cases I think society is obligated to protect the children as possible. Checks and balances are necessary and for this the Juvenile Court system in our state attempts to see that families are served appropriately.. sometimes classes in parenting and appropriate disciplline can be a resource..

- Art