True or False

[Svaha]

New Age Infiltration of the truth movement: by keith Truth from New World Exposure on Vimeo.

Having recently stumbled upon this video, I thought it would be a good thing to present in the forum to discuss.

[Jack Donaldson]

The above video as well as the Zeitgeist film are both wrong. The latter had a theme based upon Christianity simply following astrological movements, and allignments. But it didn't mention Initiation of the man who carried-out these dread trials toward maturity, and awareness of being alive among life upon this planet as well as all throughout the Universe.

The reason no uprising and condemnation occurred in ancient times, is because Christianity was in large part based upon the Teachings of men like Origen, Clement, Plato, Pythagorus, and many more. It was the 6th century Home Synod, where the Church Father Mennas was instructed by Julias to ban the Teachings of Origen as anathema, and thus be prohibited from the Bible. This made the Bible a Book with passages which were lost to interpretation, in that the Keys for interpretation were lost.

[Jack Donaldson]

In the film above, the man is a liar. I've listened to more than my first sitting, and arrived at a point where he claims H. P. Blavatsky states the ideal of a Trinity was stolen by Christianity, without providing any evidence for the statement. This is my second attempt at listening to the video. The first was late, and I was too tired. This time I stopped listening, and it was the assertions this man makes. Theosophy is not a religion, it has merely played the role of a philologist mainly. In America, there have existed very few philologists, and this is probably one reason allowing Christianity to persist. I don't like 'New Age' myself, especially if it uses themes from Thesophy taken as akin to a lazy study lacking depth and comprehensive knowledge acquired only through long efforts. As usual, however, I see the dogmatic religions blatently choosing selective context. The 'New Age' and the dogmatics can tug on the bone leaving me alone. I'm reminded of Gulliver's Travels.

[Arthur E Gregory]

Well Svaha I watched the first half of this pretty long video and will comment and then I'll watch the second half and also maybe comment.. but to me this video is clearly for a specific audience in say certain Christian groups that are fearful of the public school system, the United Nations, the so called "trilateral commission", the "new world order" Illuminati, Freemasons, theosophists and so on..

If a fraction of what the film promotes were to be true then the Theosophical Society and Helena Blavatsky are among the most powerful forces in modern history and has abundant resources and plenty of support from the most lucrative elements in our society today.. heh..heh..

Using innuendo and making connections where none exist are part and parcel of conspiracy theorists and people with paranoid delusions.

Being a Baha'i myself I've seen some of the same paranoia directed against our Faith which also supports progressive ideas about the oneness of humanity..

There seems also to be an anger toward the Zeitgeist film which is to me an over-simplification of some outmoded ideas..

but anyway.. I'll watch the rest of the film and get back to you a little later.

- Art

[Svaha]

Indeed, it is long and much of it is wrong. Laden with fear, yes. Connecting non-existent dots, yes. There are people out there who would like to in their ignorance, call into question things they do not understand. Fearful people who claim to be "christian" but who see everything out there as evil. Definitely pots calling the kettle black. I would like to reply to this film with a long bullet list of talking points that call out that which is false.

It would be great if some theosophists could bring out what is true about Theosophy and then present a more compelling video.

[michaelcarlo]

Yes it's true, but there's no need to be afraid. It's all part of the evolution of the Races and a direct assault on the calumnious belief that all Men are not created equal. "Occultism must win the day before the present era reaches...Saturn's triple septenary of the western cycle of Europe-before the end of the 21st century A.D." (S.D.111.23.) Theosophy has set loose it's Lions, lets see them stop us now.

[Arthur E Gregory]

Another point I wanted to mention about this video is the mention of a certain "Fritz A. Springmeier" and his photo is in the video..

Do a google search on "Fritz A. Springmeier" and you'll find some interesting things..

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/11-17-03/discussion.cgi.13.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/militia/militia56.html

Whether this is accurate or not I'm unsure but it appears "Springmeier" is an alias and he's tied to some fringe groups.

To me this video conjures extremism ..

I'll still watch the remainder of the video and maybe comment on it..

- Art