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I would like to hear thoughts on my belief that the Universe is a conscious life form. Religion has been wrong for eons. The following can also be found on my web site at http://www.LOOKinHERE.net/lust or in the attached PDF file.

The Living Universe Spirit Temple is founded on the belief that the Universe is a living entity and all living things within it are interconnected, this is the Living Universe Spirit. The Universe itself is God, the Universe as a collective of all it contains and all that exists and has a super supreme mind of greater power than anyone can imagine. This mind of God is the invisible Universal gravity that holds the universe together and interconnects every atom in your body. It is the divine order of the Universe. Prior to Christianity the Egyptians and other religions worshiped the Sun or the Moon. Then someone figured out that the curtain of lights in the night sky were other suns that must have life amongst them also. They called the stars and the Milky Way the Heavens of which God reigns over all. This God is what holds our molecules together and makes us what we are. Most people can not comprehend God nor divine creation, God created everything and without God there is nothing at all. By stating life is eternal, the end is the beginning and the beginning is the end, means that God has no limit to time and can live one life after another forever. This super supreme mind continuously restarts at the beginning of time each time it reaches the end indefinitely. Each life experiences is controlled by the different influences each life encounters. Everything has a positive and a negative, a plus and a minus, reality is a fantasy and fantasy is a reality. Life is in a way God's virtual reality, God would get very bored if it did not forget it's past lives and would not learn anything new, this way God sees things from every point of view.
Can it be that what we believe to be reality, is truly a fantasy, and our fantasy dream world, is truly reality? We only believe we exist and we only have the strength to generate our reality for so many hours a day. We must return to our true fantasy dream world to regenerate our reality. I go a bit more into this in my theories page. This fantasy reality would be capable of the ability to an endless number of realities happening simultaneously and would have no bounds to time. Each person lives a separate reality or even multiple realities. I also believe that even our supreme being does not completely understand itself and through it's living beings is futilely trying to understand itself. Or it could be our Supreme Being does not want us to know everything, so I may be withholding some things as he wishes. The Bible tells us that God knows every thought we have and knows everything we do, this is only possible because we all carry the spirit of God within us which makes God an insider.
Science cannot explain how our minds can hold so much information or how it does. How is it possible for something as small as an ant to have any kind of thought or even know what to do or where to go and control all it's limbs? How does a fly know you are about to swat it? Even tiny gnats and other super small insects function and find food with their tiny little brains. All of this is only possible through our Living Universe's Super Supreme Mind. Are our brains only receivers? Are we run by some sort of remote control? Are we God's virtual reality? Or do we only imagine our reality?
Life is infinite in the Universe, we have beings living inside of our Living Bodies in the form of Living Antibodies and Living Cells running about taking care of business, just as we run about the Living Earth taking care of our business. In turn the Earth is a part of Our Living Solar System and our Living Solar System is part of our living Milky Way Galaxy and it part of the Living Universe. Even the dust of the Earth contain Living Atoms, who's protons and electrons actively orbit their nucleus. If you were to enlarge this nucleus to the size of our Sun, it's protons and electrons would be orbiting at the distance of the planets from the Sun. The force that maintains their orbit is our God, the Super Supreme Living Universe. Our Living Universe is very likely only one of an infinite number of Universes. Even science cannot deny that there are other Universes at 50 billion times the distance of the size of our Universe distant from our Universe.
As scientist Fred Hoyle states "The chance that even one protein appeared spontaneously is equal to the chance that a blindfolded person could solve the Rubik cube". Living Bacteria floats throughout the Living Universe just as pollen floats about our atmosphere. This bacteria is capable of surviving entry into Earth's atmosphere just as bacteria has been found living in nuclear reactors.
In this Universe as I said there is a positive and negative which relates to good and bad or good and evil. A true believer or only true believers, believe only in doing good, a bad believer creates hatred, turns one group against another and is an evil menace to all that is good. Those that are evil require special training to remove the evil from their mind. Those that cannot be turned to good should be outcast and denied habitation amongst those who respect one another. The bad should be forced to live with others of their inconsiderate kind. It is a good thing to punish the bad, allowing them to be accepted with the respectful of the Earth only rewards their evil and they become even more evil. Nurturing this evil is promoting evil and cannot be tolerated.
Love and respect are the virtues of a good person, those who bring harm to others are evil as stated above. Those who cannot respect the personal space and rights of another are evil in nature also. Those who dish out evil do not deserve respect. Those who destroy and kill what God has placed on this Earth are of an evil nature, when food and meat are available from a market there is no reason to take the life of another of God's creatures. Those who hunt for sport are working against the works of God, they have no respect for precious life, if they cannot be changed to respect all of Gods creatures, then they are of an evil spirit and should be treated as the primitive cavemen they are. An advanced civilization farms their food and meat and respects all life of all of Gods creatures.


Scripture
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Genesis 2:1 - Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Here it clearly states that God is the host of all the Heavens, which includes every planetary body in the Universe, not just the Earth.

Genesis 2:4 - These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
And don't you forget it.

Deuteronomy 10:14 - Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord's thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
This clearly states "all that therein is" it does not state except for the animals, they also are creatures of God, they may not have a human concept of God but they are still his creatures with a strong instinct for survival and love for their families.

1 Chronicles 16:26 - For all the gods of the people are idols: but the Lord made the heavens.
I believe this says that worshiping the Universe and idolizing it is the only thing there is actually created by God. Worshiping anything other than the Earth and the Heavens is only worshiping man made idols.

2 Chronicles 2:6 - But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
So many people have the huge misconception that God is some guy hanging out on a cloud making decisions and controlling everything. God is a collective of all living things, and each has an effect on the collective.

2 Chronicles 6:18 - But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!
God is not found in a church, there is no church large enough to contain him/it. God is larger than the whole Universe and is present everywhere at all times.

Job 9:8 - Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
God is the gravitational force that holds planets in orbit and galaxies spinning, everything has an interaction with everything else.

Job 14:12 -. So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
It is not possible for our existence without the existence of the Universe, if it should cease to exist, so will we.

Job 15:15 - Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
God does not even trust the preachers of Earth, because their understanding of him is flawed and disrupts his order. They lead his flock astray from God's true wishes, creating hatred to anyone without the same belief. These are the false profits he speaks of, those that teach what is not God's will.

Job 26:13 - By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent.
This simply states that God created the constellations.

Job 35:5 - Look unto the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than thou.
Light pollution keeps a vast part of the planet from being able to see the clouds of the heavens which are clearly visible though today's Hubble space telescope and are what we call nebulas. In areas far from cities these nebulas can be seen with the naked eye, they are clouds higher than the clouds of Earth.

Psalms 8:3 - When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
A beautiful and powerful statement clearly put.

Psalms 18:13 - The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Coals of fire are simply meteorites falling from the sky, this happens throughout the Universe.

Psalms 19:1 - The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork.
Anyone who has looked up at a clear night sky full of Stars, planets and Galaxies, is seeing the glory of God, what is out their is far greater than our little blue balloon.

Psalms 33:6 - By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
Billions of Stars and Galaxies strewn everywhere, so much out their you could not begin to conceive it's size and number of other worlds God is host to.

Psalms 36:5 - Thy mercy, O Lord, is in the heavens; and thy faithfulness reacheth unto the clouds.
Is someone asking for mercy from what can fall out of the sky? After Sodom and Gomorra was pelted with burning coal from the sky.

Psalms 50:4 - He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people.

Psalms 50:6 - And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.
It will not be any man to decide if I am righteous, God the supreme mind of the Universe will make that call.

Psalms 96:5 - For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the Lord made the heavens.
Our national leaders are mere Idols, the greatness is the Universe, our leaders are no greater than any of us compared to the greatness of the Universe.

Psalms 97:6 - The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.
The Universe is a great work, before Christianity ancient religions worshiped the Sun and the Moon and all sorts of earthly objects. When man discovered the greatness of the Heavens and that we were a mere spec of dust amongst the stars, they turned to worshiping the Heavens of the Great Divine Universe.

Hebrews 1:10 - And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Psalms 102:25 - Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Dose this say that the Earth was built from old star dust and bits of the Heavens? And God built the Heavens the same way.

Psalms 103:19 - The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
God rules over all beings in the Universe.

Psalms 104:2 - Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
The Stars surround our planet like a curtain of lights, how beautiful a curtain it is.

Psalms 115:3 - But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
God the supreme mind of our Universe lives one life after another, forever and ever and ever. For God time is a cycle just as our clocks cycle every twelve hours God's clock reaches the end of eternity and starts again at the beginning and then repeats the process infinitely with out end.

Psalms 115:16 - The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the Earth hath he given to the children of men.
Earth was given to man and the rest of what is out there is God's.

Psalms 123:1 - Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens.
Seems clear this is addressing all the others than live amongst the stars, when he looks into the night sky.

Psalms 148:1 - Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the Lord from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Praise the Almighty Universe and all the life it contains and do it from the highest point, closer to the Heavens.

Isaiah 45:12 - I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
The Earth is a Host and God commands all the Host Planets of the Universe.

Isaiah 45:18 - For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Wow, can it be put any clearer, the Earth was made for inhabitation?

Isaiah 48:13 - Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.
There is only one thing faster than light that is God, God is present everywhere all the time.

Isaiah 51:6 - Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
Just like above God's Spirit returns to the beginning at the end and lives on.

Isaiah 55:9 - For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Is this something a superior race of beings would say to the men of Earth?

Jeremiah 10:11 - Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
When the people of the Earth find the true God, all other religions will cease to exist.

Hosea 2:21 - And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
2 Peter 3:13 - Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
One day signals from the Earth will reach other worlds and we will hear them, just as we are now transmitting and listening to the stars.

2 Corinthians 5:1 - For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
When the Earth reaches its end we have another home amongst the stars.

Mark 12-30 - And thou shalt love the lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
We should all love the life we are given and thank the Great God of the heavens.

Mark 12-31 - And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
We are all of the same spirit of our Great Universe, learn to get along, don't do anything to anybody you would not do to yourself..

Mark 9-23 - Jesus said unto him, if thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
If you believe in the power of our great Universe everything is possible and nothing is impossible.

Mark 11-22 - And Jesus answering saith unto them, have faith in God.
Believe in our supreme being.

Mark 11-23 - For verily I say unto you, that whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe with all his heart, but shall believe that those thing which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
If your faith in God was great enough you could move mountains.


Mark 11-24 - Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire , when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
Believe and you will receive, remove all doubt.

Theories
Here are my theories which are just as valid as science or Christianity, and they are only theories.
Theory 1 Fantasy Reality
I go to sleep each night.
To rest my sole tonight.
Before I wake, I dream of days that might.
I wake each day and live this life a fantasy
We are not what we think we are, we create ourselves and our own reality. What we think is reality, is fantasy and what we call dreams and fantasy is closer to our true nature. Reality is a fantasy and fantasy is reality. We are an incomprehensible type of being, in fact the term human being is just what it says being human. We think we are, therefore we are. When we go to sleep, our spirit recharges in order to have the strength to exist in the reality we know of as reality. Just before we wake up we begin to dream. This is our spirit regaining it's strength, still weak, inconsistent and unclear. The dreams become more clear and logical just before we wake up, because our spirit is more focused. At a certain point we become conscious and awake to live the next day of our make believe reality. Confirmation of this is hidden within in the Bible, which is a document of compromise, keeping the roman empire in power and allowing followers of Christ to worship their lord. The followers of Christ were becoming a threat to the Roman Empire, so the Romans created a document integrating their government with basic beliefs of the followers of Christ. This is where the Roman Catholic Church comes from, its not a true faith it is corrupted with Roman law. Laws which the weak of faith accepted to end persecution, believing the lies of an evil (satanic) government (controllers) who promised an end to torture, tyranny and other abuses of their power. If you read only the parts of the Bible which are statements of Christ and the surrounding text, you should be able to understand that we are an infinite creation without bounds. Everything is possible, life is eternal, time is insignificant/without bounds, everything is created and recreated endlessly.

Theory 2 Intelligent Dinosaur
It is well known that humans believe that they are the first intelligent life to inhabit the earth. It is also well known that humans are killing of all the large creatures of the earth, proving there lack of intelligence. Many theories have been brought to light as to the demise of the dinosaurs sixty five million years ago, like a cataclysmic meteor strike. It may be that an intelligent dinosaur killed of the larger dinosaurs and have been the dominant life form on earth ever since. As far as I know I am the first with this theory, so I believe I should be able to name this being after myself. I call this dinosaur Gormantis Reptilas or the ancient ones, who may very well be our creators through genetic engineering. We speak of aliens from outer space and unidentified flying objects when in fact they are not aliens they are earthlings just like us except they are sixty five million years more advanced than we are. We humans are nothing more than a continuing genetic experiment, mere guinea pigs. Gormantis Reptilas could explain the origin of the moon and explain the stories of Atlantis and flying saucers. Our civilization has only been traced to 10,000 years back, yet the ancient ones have had 65,000,000 years to construct the moon, which I believe could be an artificial satellite covered with minerals containing clean nuclear fuel and oxygen rich soil. Stories tell us that Atlantis was a very advanced civilization which disappeared into the ocean. Atlantis was likely built as a floating continent designed to sink into the ocean with stealth technology to be hidden from us as we advanced. There is probably one in the Atlantic Ocean and one in the pacific ocean explaining the two mysterious triangles we know of. Our government tells us unidentified flying objects do not exist, they are not lying because they have identified them, and therefore they are IFOs (Identified Flying Objects) not UFOs. These are the serpent of the tree of knowledge.

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So far it seems nobody has given this much thought, or do most people believe that heaven is a resort on a cloud somewhere?

Life is a cycle just like the water cycle, the rain and snow falls from the sky, runs down the mountains to the sea, evaporated back into the clouds and falls again. When our bodies wear out and die our spirit goes on to a new life anywhere and anytime in the galaxy we want to go.

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William,
Have just seen this offering from you. Will be responding in due course as time permits. From the intitial speed read I could tell this was a contribution of great interest to me.....especially the challenge:

'do most people believe that heaven is a resort on a cloud somewhere?'

I know for a fact that it isn't and that the 'Call from God' for these days especially is for 'Heaven on Earth'

I seem to resonate well with your understandings of God and The Mind of God and, well, in the first few paragraphs I quickly read I was astonished to realise I could not fault any point based on my own considered ponderings. So, William, I will certainly get back to this discussion in one of those idle moments when I'm not otherwise doing something to help 'co-create' the Heaven on Earth for All as a better alternative than the 'pie in the sky' version....or, as you put it 'a resort on a cloud somewhere'

Thank you for an uplifting read to start my day. Maureen

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Earth is a Heaven amounst the Heavens, people forget the stars and Milky Way are what the acient people refered to as Heaven. They knew that there had to be other life on the palnets of the other stars. Their gods decended from Heaven in chariots (vehicles). People today and Biblical teachings have spun the original stories habong people believe there is some cloud top Heaven with a white bearded God sitting in a throne running everyones life. Every neutron and electron in our bodies are held together by my Living Universe God. Just imagine if every atom quit orbiting, we would turn to dust.

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William,
Well, our bodies would turn to dust certainly...but not 'us' - that of 'us' that really is would not turn to dust. Where it might end up is the million dollar question for anyone interested to know.

I think it would be more productive to me if I had an idea what you mean when you refer to Heaven. I can't see how 'Earth is a Heaven amongst Heavens' bears any resemblance to the facts, unless warmongering, misery, starvation, cruelty and all manner of things happening on Earth fit into your understanding of the word Heaven.

Sorting out all the unHeavenly things happening around the globe might make Earth Heavenly (at least what I think of as Heavenly) till then, it's anything but for too many people.

It is said that Venus is a Sacred Planet and Earth is it's twin planet. One of these years we may be able to say Earth is also a Sacred Planet...till then..keep working I suppose. :)

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Have we lost the view of the Buddhist "samsara" and Hindu "maya"? Are these not Theosophical subjects any more? We who are of the Zen School say that "Samsara is Nirvana." Right here! Right now! (Which is ALL we have!)

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No Andrew,
None of us ignore those Wisdoms.
They are very important for any struggling in their personal life.
Right here..right now is ALL we have is definitely an important state of mind to develop for any who struggle through life.

The skills necessary to devlop that state of mind are what the last Buddha promoted. Even rudimentary examination of Buddhist thought reveals it is a mental health philosophy whose 'kernal' is basic value/virtue/character development presented in the most simple terms. Brilliantly simple in fact. It is not surprising Buddhist philosophy is very popular in the mixed up West.

I would think any person who has reached that state of knowing you allude to would then have choices. Some of which may be.....

1. Live in that state of Being.... as an example of calm transquility for others to be curious about, aspire to etc. Important work for sure and I notice many of what we call the 'New Agers' today are doing just that. Making life work for them, creating their own reality and living it in the most beautiful way they can etc.

2. Others who have knowledge of that state of Bliss may have another calling.
Perhaps they have karma which does not allow them to have their own 'personal private Heaven on Eart, state of Bliss' For them there may be one flaw to that idea which disallows them from taking the choice of those as mentioned in option 1. For Group 2 it can never be good enough for some, but not ALL, to experience that state of being. For Group 2 their personal satisfaction may need to centre more on service in other ways...just as it did for the Buddha Guatamala who, we are told, was born into a life of ease and privilege which got turned upside down when he saw how others lived and could not ignore their plight.

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I truely believe heaven is a state of "being" or of complete awareness. I have struggled most of my life with being here in the physical. My early experiences clearly showed me Love (heaven) didn't exist here,not as I knew and remembered it. How ever I alway's knew that this physical consciousness was only a tiny part of what I am. Even as a small child I knew this. When I went to sleep at night, or at least my body did, I would expeirence many other aspects of consciousness. I was awake while my body slept..love and peace were often present. I could switch realities by squeezing my fingers (astral) I could change forms, and fly there were no limits and more importantly no fear. What I have learnt from and continue to learn from these experiences is that we are "responsible for the world we see" it is the way it is because, I am the way I am. If we take on the role of Judgement we have separated ourselves from reality and bought into "the world of man". HOE is right here right now, we just have to see things in a different light.

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When I recently underwent Satori, both my past life (bad) and my future (?) fell away! Finally, after nearly 64 years, I know how to live in the eternal NOW! What more can I say?

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Have you ever realizes that the atoms that make up your body do not touch each other. So what holds them together in their unique assembly is God. Even things that appear solid are only a mass of orbiting protons and neutrons. If we were on a planet orbiting Alpha Centari looking back toward Earth, wouldn't Earth then be in the Heavens? We don't know what other world in the Heavens we might end up on in a future life. God is the only thing faster than light, its presences is everywhere ay the same time.

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So you believe in "the god of the gaps,"? That is, everything we can't explain (gaps) we refer to a "God" until the gaps are all filled? I believe in the Wisdom-Religion, but I don't believe in "God" (I am a non-theist Zen Buddhist/Theosophist).

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Andrew this is god talking to you, granted an inconsequential little worm of a god, but a god none the less, you listen here Human, you said you don't believe in me , well I don't believe in you either.
The invisible gravity that holds all the electrons and protons and the universe together or rather keeps all their elements orbiting. I believe the Universe is a life form with a conscious we call God. We only believe we exist, the belief is we create our own world or the creation of the mind of the Universe does. Our dream world is the true reality, we have to return to it and rest to have the strength to create what we call reality, which being a creation is actually a fantasy. So things are actually the opposite of what we believe they are and reality is a just a fantasy of the mind of the Universe. We each create our own worlds. The mind of the Universe lives one live after another forever, facing different circumstances in each life. This is how life is eternal, it never ends.

If you don’t believe something is holding your atoms together in their nearly perfect order (everyone has a few stray atoms), than why haven’t you turned to dust?

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