FREE WILL

[Jack Donaldson]

A lot of people discuss free will. Some say we don't possess it for we are under many laws, i.e., we are wheels within wheels. Then there are those who argue that they do indeed possess free will. I think it is supported by the assertion that they make choices.

At the moment, I wearily come to the position that we do indeed possess loads of free will. We receive thoughts, images, and give them harbor. Then they may be like a seed which grows a line, we continue giving harbor, this line bifurcates or branches off into two lines, we continue giving harbor, the two lines branch off into four lines, verb sap means I don't need to go on with the illustration. In short, from only one thought or image received, I might now possess so many branches or lianas to swing from, one to another, that these branches or lianas should be transformed into a description along the lines of an electron cloud.

I suppose critical thinking, and structured study, especially of Theosophy, makes one a dauntless study, rather than an anxious traveler from one branch to another. Hold on just one moment, while I grasp the next liana. You see what I just did? I chose to release the liana I was swinging upon to swing upon the next liana. Free will. I chose to agree free will exists through choice.

In summation, I would like to know Inspired Will. Effort and endless energy still requires a guide, a Teacher. I don't like the suggestion that I am only mind of desire. I choose to interpret this based upon the knowledge that mind is a wide ranging spectrum, and this description also fits concerning desire. Theosophy asserts I am a Monkey brain with base animal desires. Why? Suggesting this is a starting point, a base for departure?

[Janeth]

Hi Jack, lots of food for thought from everyone here-☺ I love it!!-☺ Thanks much guys!!-☺
re: ►"..Kama and Pranas are both major components, of the remaining five aggrative components of the human.."<---Kindly, if you can spare a moment, will you please share with our 'community' what the "remaining five aggrative components of the human" are? -Thx!!-☺

[Janeth]

►"..It's discussed in a different light when compared to the Rays which are septenary man.."<---In the interest of visitors and spiritual seekers unfamiliar with the Rays , perhaps the following link could be helpful http://www.theosophicalinstitute.org/medialibrary/insidelibrary.php

[michaelcarlo]

While we wait for the correct answer here's some picture's of what's left of our space program

[Janeth]

►"..pranic is etheric linked to physical through the Earth.."<---until the physical body stops functioning and the link is broken.

[Janeth]

Thanks a lot for posting a forum on one of my favorite subjects, Jack, "Free Will". I do strongly believe we all have 'free will'. Through my observations and experience, I have come to fully understand and accept that in fact we do have 'free will'. As I mentioned on Will Morrow's forum http://theosophical.ning.com/forum/topics/theosophy-a-study-itself
I also believe 'free will' is limited; some of us are privileged to have more of it (we have earned it); some have less.
PS. The comments I posted on Will's forum regarding 'free will' can be found on pages 3, 4 and 5

[Jack Donaldson]

Thanks for your reply Janeth. I still want someone to give some insight concerning the assertion in my previous message, that Pranas and Kamas are denoted as two, among the seven aggragates of a human, and this is incorrect.

[Janeth]

Interesting point, Jack, if you won't mind, in the interests of visitors and newcomers to Theosophy, I would like to post what the "Theosophical Glossary" by H. P. Blavatsky, says about Prana and Kama--Should you mind, please feel free to remove this comment.-:) As the originator/facilitator of this great forum/discussion you should have the privilege of removing unwanted comments, or asking TC moderators to remove them. :)

"Prana (Sk.). (please note there is a special character above the first 'a'). Llife-Principle; the breath of Life."

"Kama (Sk.). (special character above first 'a') Evil desire, lust, volition; the cleaving to existence. Kama is generally identified with Mara, the tempter."

"Mara (Sk.). (speicial character above first 'a') The god of Temptation, the Seducer who tried to turn away Buddha from his Path. He is called the "Destroyer" and "Death" (of the Soul). One of the names of Kama-(special character above first 'a'), God of love."

[Jack Donaldson]

I rarely watch this animated tv show, "South Park" and once saw a little boy in a wheelchair, and it seemed he could only say one word, his name which sounded like Thmei, Thmei, Thmei!!!!!

[Janeth]

Jack, am thinking perhaps visitors and newcomers to Theosophy, unfamiliar with related information available on TC, would appreciate learning about other places in our 'community' where they may be able to find related info. such as forum:

Jesus (and early Christianity)
• Posted by Frank McLaughlin on February 19, 2009 at 8:52pm in Theosophy
http://theosophical.ning.com/forum/topics/jesus-and-early-christian...

Following comments on that forum might be of interest to some--The following comments can be found on page 9:
“Reply by Konstantin Zaitzev on May 27, 2009 at 4:13am”
“Reply by Konstantin Zaitzev on July 17, 2009 at 11:28am”
“Reply by Janeth on July 16, 2009 at 1:32pm”

Among other sources of related information we have on TC are Odin Townley’s blogs—If you-(anyone) visit his TC-wall and then click on “Blog Posts” you (anyone) will easily find them.

Just thinking of others!! :)

[Jack Donaldson]

The truth will come to us at last, when all is one and one is all. To be a rock and not to roll. She is still buying her way to heaven. note; what is significant about last line?

unrelated comment;
There can be only one. tcboo. One!!!